When I boot/reboot Vista it gets to a screen that has my name and a little orange square above it. I can click on the little orange square (actually a picture of some sort) or hit ENTER to continue the boot process.
Is there a way to bypass this so the machine will boot fully unattended? Also, since I am the only user on this machine, can't I have ADMIN privileges/rights/options over everything all the time. I tried to do something (yes, I forgot what it was) and was told I didn't have the privilege/whatever to do it. Kinda like having my Mother here to watch over me :o)
Happy Fathers Day
Bill

Bypass boot screen?
It is an important change to Vista (for security reasons) that the user runs with limited rights and elevates those rights for any operation that will make a change to the computer.
"Bill" wrote in message
When I boot/reboot Vista it gets to a screen that has my name and a little orange square above it. I can click on the little orange square (actually a picture of some sort) or hit ENTER to continue the boot process.
Is there a way to bypass this so the machine will boot fully unattended? Also, since I am the only user on this machine, can't I have ADMIN privileges/rights/options over everything all the time. I tried to do something (yes, I forgot what it was) and was told I didn't have the privilege/whatever to do it. Kinda like having my Mother here to watch over me :o)
Happy Fathers Day
Bill
In article , Bill says...
Also, since I am the only user on this machine, can't I have ADMIN privileges/rights/options over everything all the time. I tried to do something (yes, I forgot what it was) and was told I didn't have the privilege/whatever to do it. Kinda like having my Mother here to watch over me :o)
People wanted security and now it is implemented properly the same way
as Linux.
-- Conor Grumpy Old Man Same Shit, Different Day.
but my documents folder becomes read only! Settibng myself as Adminstoator removes it but if I go back to standard they become read only again
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
It is an important change to Vista (for security reasons) that the user runs with limited rights and elevates those rights for any operation that will make a change to the computer.
"Bill" wrote in message When I boot/reboot Vista it gets to a screen that has my name and a little orange square above it. I can click on the little orange square (actually a picture of some sort) or hit ENTER to continue the boot process.
Is there a way to bypass this so the machine will boot fully unattended? Also, since I am the only user on this machine, can't I have ADMIN privileges/rights/options over everything all the time. I tried to do something (yes, I forgot what it was) and was told I didn't have the privilege/whatever to do it. Kinda like having my Mother here to watch over me :o)
Happy Fathers Day
Bill
Upon further review - I can live with this. Security is better than speed/easy way out. Thanks for the replies gentlemen.
Bill
"Conor" wrote in message In article , Bill says...
Also, since I am the only user on this machine, can't I have ADMIN privileges/rights/options over everything all the time. I tried to do something (yes, I forgot what it was) and was told I didn't have the privilege/whatever to do it. Kinda like having my Mother here to watch over me :o)
People wanted security and now it is implemented properly the same way
as Linux.
-- Conor Grumpy Old Man Same Shit, Different Day.
You have to use elevated rights. This is the only way to guarantee that all changes to your system are made with your knowledge. Otherwise malware can hijack your system by running under Admin rights.
"Jim Fraas" wrote in message
but my documents folder becomes read only! Settibng myself as Adminstoator removes it but if I go back to standard they become read only again
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message It is an important change to Vista (for security reasons) that the user runs with limited rights and elevates those rights for any operation that will make a change to the computer.
"Bill" wrote in message When I boot/reboot Vista it gets to a screen that has my name and a little orange square above it. I can click on the little orange square (actually a picture of some sort) or hit ENTER to continue the boot process.
Is there a way to bypass this so the machine will boot fully unattended? Also, since I am the only user on this machine, can't I have ADMIN privileges/rights/options over everything all the time. I tried to do something (yes, I forgot what it was) and was told I didn't have the privilege/whatever to do it. Kinda like having my Mother here to watch over me :o)
Happy Fathers Day
Bill
I disagree that Vista's security procedures are "implemented properly the same way as Linux" (UNIX). In UNIX, a user can become a super user or root by requesting this change and entering the appropriate password. It is also possible to login as root, if one has has the proper password. The situation is quite different with Vista. A user can have administrator privileges, but the setting doesn't function the same as "Administrator" as is true with UNIX's root. Vista continues to ask if you want to act as Administrator when supposedly you already have these privileges. Also, this level of user cannot change directory privileges that stay changed except by going through a very awkward procedure that results in a significant security risk. It is also apparently no longer possible to log onto Vista as Administrator in a manner that would be similar to logging on to UNIX as root. It is extremely frustrating to discover that a long download fails at the very end because a user with Administrator privileges cannot write to the required directory or that "save" fails in Visual Studio after modifying and recompiling a program. Administrative privileges should be just that not Vista's implementation of a "Quasi Administrator". The only current way to circumvent this horrible mess is to painstakingly set all directories to read/write for all users. This is a security risk, but Vista does not provide one with a viable alternate given its current poor file security design. Robbie
You're welcome.
"Bill" wrote in message
Upon further review - I can live with this. Security is better than speed/easy way out. Thanks for the replies gentlemen.
Bill
"Conor" wrote in message In article , Bill says...
Also, since I am the only user on this machine, can't I have ADMIN privileges/rights/options over everything all the time. I tried to do something (yes, I forgot what it was) and was told I didn't have the privilege/whatever to do it. Kinda like having my Mother here to watch over me :o)
People wanted security and now it is implemented properly the same way as Linux.
-- Conor Grumpy Old Man Same Shit, Different Day.
"Jim Fraas" wrote in message
but my documents folder becomes read only! Settibng myself as Adminstoator removes it but if I go back to standard they become read only again
All folders are Read Only. Ignore it. Windows does.
-- Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM Please reply in newsgroup.
You can log on automatically, same as XP. Goto a run prompt and type "control userpasswords2" without the quotes. Uncheck "users must enter a username and password..." (Apologies if it's worded differently, I'm doing it from memory as my install is fecked!)
If you're talking about User Account Control, I managed to turn it off by going into the Security Center and disabling "User Account Control". It was useful at first, then it started to really annoy me by dimming everything until I clicked OK to allow something I had myself initiated.
Hope that helps. Steve
"Bill" wrote in message
When I boot/reboot Vista it gets to a screen that has my name and a little orange square above it. I can click on the little orange square (actually a picture of some sort) or hit ENTER to continue the boot process.
Is there a way to bypass this so the machine will boot fully unattended? Also, since I am the only user on this machine, can't I have ADMIN privileges/rights/options over everything all the time. I tried to do something (yes, I forgot what it was) and was told I didn't have the privilege/whatever to do it. Kinda like having my Mother here to watch over me :o)
Happy Fathers Day
Bill
Umm, that's hard to ignore Frank when the document you created earlier now can't be bloody saved after editing because it is read only !
I can see the point with executable files but my CorelDraw creations?? It is HIGHLY annoying.
-- Ian M. Walker
http://www.IanMWalker.com
~ Look to your own life before worrying how others are living theirs ~ "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM" wrote in message
"Jim Fraas" wrote in message but my documents folder becomes read only! Settibng myself as Adminstoator removes it but if I go back to standard they become read only again
All folders are Read Only. Ignore it. Windows does.
-- Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM Please reply in newsgroup.
Here, here, Robert.
They are treating us as bloody kids! I've never had a problem as I've always used up to date Anti-Virus, Spyware blockers, etc. and I'm shielded behind my router so can't even be seen on the 'net (and yes, I've run the tests available for this). There ought to be easy to find options such as logging on as a REAL Administrator.
-- Ian M. Walker
http://www.IanMWalker.com
~ Look to your own life before worrying how others are living theirs ~ "Robert Robinson" wrote in message
I disagree that Vista's security procedures are "implemented properly the same way as Linux" (UNIX). In UNIX, a user can become a super user or root by requesting this change and entering the appropriate password. It is also possible to login as root, if one has has the proper password. The situation is quite different with Vista. A user can have administrator privileges, but the setting doesn't function the same as "Administrator" as is true with UNIX's root. Vista continues to ask if you want to act as Administrator when supposedly you already have these privileges. Also, this level of user cannot change directory privileges that stay changed except by going through a very awkward procedure that results in a significant security risk. It is also apparently no longer possible to log onto Vista as Administrator in a manner that would be similar to logging on to UNIX as root. It is extremely frustrating to discover that a long download fails at the very end because a user with Administrator privileges cannot write to the required directory or that "save" fails in Visual Studio after modifying and recompiling a program. Administrative privileges should be just that not Vista's implementation of a "Quasi Administrator". The only current way to circumvent this horrible mess is to painstakingly set all directories to read/write for all users. This is a security risk, but Vista does not provide one with a viable alternate given its current poor file security design. Robbie
Frank said the folders are read only. I did not read that as the files being read only.
"Ian M. Walker" wrote in message
Umm, that's hard to ignore Frank when the document you created earlier now can't be bloody saved after editing because it is read only !
I can see the point with executable files but my CorelDraw creations?? It is HIGHLY annoying.
-- Ian M. Walker
http://www.IanMWalker.com
~ Look to your own life before worrying how others are living theirs ~ "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM" wrote in message "Jim Fraas" wrote in message but my documents folder becomes read only! Settibng myself as Adminstoator removes it but if I go back to standard they become read only again
All folders are Read Only. Ignore it. Windows does.
-- Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM Please reply in newsgroup.
While I share your feelings, I also know that lots of consumers are not doing what you and I do.
"Ian M. Walker" wrote in message
Here, here, Robert.
They are treating us as bloody kids! I've never had a problem as I've always used up to date Anti-Virus, Spyware blockers, etc. and I'm shielded behind my router so can't even be seen on the 'net (and yes, I've run the tests available for this). There ought to be easy to find options such as logging on as a REAL Administrator.
-- Ian M. Walker
http://www.IanMWalker.com
~ Look to your own life before worrying how others are living theirs ~ "Robert Robinson" wrote in message I disagree that Vista's security procedures are "implemented properly the same way as Linux" (UNIX). In UNIX, a user can become a super user or root by requesting this change and entering the appropriate password. It is also possible to login as root, if one has has the proper password. The situation is quite different with Vista. A user can have administrator privileges, but the setting doesn't function the same as "Administrator" as is true with UNIX's root. Vista continues to ask if you want to act as Administrator when supposedly you already have these privileges. Also, this level of user cannot change directory privileges that stay changed except by going through a very awkward procedure that results in a significant security risk. It is also apparently no longer possible to log onto Vista as Administrator in a manner that would be similar to logging on to UNIX as root. It is extremely frustrating to discover that a long download fails at the very end because a user with Administrator privileges cannot write to the required directory or that "save" fails in Visual Studio after modifying and recompiling a program. Administrative privileges should be just that not Vista's implementation of a "Quasi Administrator". The only current way to circumvent this horrible mess is to painstakingly set all directories to read/write for all users. This is a security risk, but Vista does not provide one with a viable alternate given its current poor file security design. Robbie
In article , Robert Robinson says...
It is also apparently no longer possible to log onto Vista as Administrator in a manner that would be similar to logging on to UNIX as root.
So absolutely no different to the Ubuntu distro then where everything is done as SUDO.
It is extremely frustrating to discover that a long download fails at the very end because a user with Administrator privileges cannot write to the required directory or that "save" fails in Visual Studio after modifying and recompiling a program.
Clue is in the name...BETA.
-- Conor Grumpy Old Man Same Shit, Different Day.
That may be a chance I will have to take for now. I cannot edit any documents. I xcannot use my $ program iwthin Vista
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
You have to use elevated rights. This is the only way to guarantee that all changes to your system are made with your knowledge. Otherwise malware can hijack your system by running under Admin rights.
"Jim Fraas" wrote in message but my documents folder becomes read only! Settibng myself as Adminstoator removes it but if I go back to standard they become read only again
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message It is an important change to Vista (for security reasons) that the user runs with limited rights and elevates those rights for any operation that will make a change to the computer.
"Bill" wrote in message When I boot/reboot Vista it gets to a screen that has my name and a little orange square above it. I can click on the little orange square (actually a picture of some sort) or hit ENTER to continue the boot process.
Is there a way to bypass this so the machine will boot fully unattended? Also, since I am the only user on this machine, can't I have ADMIN privileges/rights/options over everything all the time. I tried to do something (yes, I forgot what it was) and was told I didn't have the privilege/whatever to do it. Kinda like having my Mother here to watch over me :o)
Happy Fathers Day
Bill
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